Farmers Insurance Group Lump Sums Will Likely Decline in 2022 After Hitting Highs in 2021

The November interest rates, which Farmers Insurance Group uses to determine lump sum values for everyone who retires in 2022 will be released in mid December. Rates increased in November and if that trend holds we could see a reduction in lump-sum values for Farmers Insurance Group employees who retire in 2022. Farmers Insurance Group interest rates decreased in 2020 causing 2021 lump sums to hit record highs. However, rates are now rising which will likely reduce lump sums for those who retire in 2022. When interest rates move up or down, your pension lump sum amount will move in an inverse relationship. Through the pandemic, interest rates have dropped dramatically which has greatly increased many lump sum payments. This trend culminated in record lows for individuals who commence their benefits 2021. However, rates have increased in 2021, and larger trends show that they will likely increase further, potentially causing a significant reduction in pension lump sums in 2022.

 

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The Farmers Insurance Group Pension Plan is a great retirement benefit for Farmers Insurance Group employees. Your exact pension depends on your hire date, original hire company, and if you are management or not. The core pension benefit uses a calculation method looking at your years of service and final average pay or wage bands to determine your monthly annuity. From there you have the option to choose a joint annuity or a lump sum. The lump sum calculation will depend on your age and the current interest rate environment.


Farmers Insurance Group Pension Lump Sum Calculation:

For the lump sum calculation, Farmers Insurance Group uses the PPA (Pension Protection Act) segment rates. These are 3 different segment rates based on years in retirement. The first segment is used for the first 5 years of retirement. The second segment is for years 6 through 20. The third segment is for years 21 and beyond. Your age will determine how many years segment 3 is used. These segment rates are updated monthly. Farmers Insurance Group uses the results of the November rates to determine the interest rates used for the lump sum calculation in the following year. The segment rates are generally released about 3 weeks into the following month. Due to this, you will not know for certain what rates used for 2022 will be until late December. The best gauge is to watch the monthly rates as you get closer with the October rates being released around Thanksgiving.
In 2021 the rates moved up through the spring then came back down a bit in the summer. Since then, they have started moving back up again. As of this writing, the September rates are the most up to date which are 2 months shy of the November rates. Currently, those rates are .17% higher on the 1st segment, .24% higher on the 2nd segment, and .03% lower on the 3rd segment. Since the 2nd segment covers 15 years of retirement it has the largest weighting on the calculations. The current move of .24% will likely lead to a 2% - 3% decline in your lump sum in 2022. However, with rates rising, and the volatility we've seen lately, it's possible you could see a significant increase between now and the time the November rates are released. This would cause a larger reduction in your lump sum.

In addition to lump sum reduction in 2022, there are many other changes affecting employees, especially managers. If you would like to review your situation, we can run a complimentary detailed cash flow analysis to show you various retirement dates and how the Farmers Insurance Group benefits may change. Click here to schedule a Cashflow Analysis.

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The annuity is discounted based on mortality as well as interest rates, meaning the present value of each monthly payment reduces as the probability of living to receive each payment reduces. The older you are when you commence your pension benefit, the fewer the number of years that will be valued using the third segment rate (20+ years) and, conversely, the younger you are, the greater the number of years that will be valued using the third segment rate.

This methodology essentially means that there will be a unique monthly interest rate (lump-sum conversion factor) for each year of birth.

How Do Rate Changes Affect Your Farmers Insurance Group Pension?


Pension pricing is based on interest calculations, which means a slight adjustment in your retirement date may have a significant financial impact on your pension due to changing rates each year.

Everything else held equal, a higher interest rate will produce a lower lump sum. The exact changes depend on your specific age, but on average a 1% change in rates can equate to an 8% to 12% change in lump sums. So, on average, a 1% change could increase or decrease your pension lump sum by roughly 10%.

The current changes discussed above of .24% will likely mean a decline of 2-3% in your lump sum. For someone with a $500,000 lump sum, which could mean a move of as much as $15,000. For a $1,000,000 lump sum, it would be roughly $30,000. It is very likely we will see rates move even higher in 2022 which will lead to a further drop in lump sums for 2023. Should they go up by 1%, then changes could be 10%. That could mean a $50,000 decrease on a current $500,000 lump sum or $100,000 on a $1,000,000 lump sum.

Example:


John is a manager who is 61 years old and has reached Mod-75. He is a manager and is considering going early in 2021 so he does not lose the Farmers Insurance Group paid portion on his retiree medical prior to age 65. His current lump sum is $800,000. After consulting Farmers Insurance Group HR, he learns he could be giving up $600/mo. in benefits for the next 4 years which is a total of $28,800. He also sees that his lump sum will be going down by roughly $24,000 given the current interest rates and understands it may even go lower. His original plan was to work to age 62, however by working into 2022, he could potentially be giving up $52,800 in benefits. He will effectively be working for reduced pay or even for free in 2022 given this scenario. Due to this, it may be better for him to retire in December 2021 to capture these benefits or review working longer to recoup them.

'A 1% change could increase or decrease your pension lump sum by roughly 10%'
 

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Given the current interest rate environment, it is highly suggested you discuss your options with The Retirement Group and allow us to monitor the rates and keep you up to date on the monthly changes. We can provide a complimentary cash flow analysis to show you how various retirement dates may play out.

It is important to remember the pension annuity may be a better fit no matter how attractive the pension lump sum may be. Every situation is unique, and a cash flow analysis will allow you to compare all pension options. To schedule a cashflow analysis please click the button below:

What is the 401(k) plan offered by Farmers Insurance Group?

The 401(k) plan at Farmers Insurance Group is a retirement savings plan that allows employees to save a portion of their paycheck before taxes are taken out.

How does Farmers Insurance Group match employee contributions to the 401(k) plan?

Farmers Insurance Group offers a matching contribution to the 401(k) plan, which typically matches a percentage of the employee's contributions, up to a certain limit.

What are the eligibility requirements for the 401(k) plan at Farmers Insurance Group?

Employees of Farmers Insurance Group are generally eligible to participate in the 401(k) plan after completing a certain period of employment, usually within the first year.

Can employees of Farmers Insurance Group make changes to their 401(k) contributions?

Yes, employees of Farmers Insurance Group can change their contribution amounts at any time, subject to certain plan rules.

What investment options are available in the Farmers Insurance Group 401(k) plan?

The Farmers Insurance Group 401(k) plan offers a variety of investment options, including mutual funds, stocks, and bonds, allowing employees to tailor their investment strategy.

Is there a vesting schedule for the employer match in the Farmers Insurance Group 401(k) plan?

Yes, the Farmers Insurance Group 401(k) plan has a vesting schedule that determines how much of the employer match employees can keep if they leave the company.

How can employees at Farmers Insurance Group access their 401(k) account information?

Employees can access their 401(k) account information through the Farmers Insurance Group employee portal or by contacting the plan administrator.

What happens to the 401(k) savings if an employee leaves Farmers Insurance Group?

If an employee leaves Farmers Insurance Group, they can roll over their 401(k) savings into another retirement account, withdraw the funds, or leave the savings in the Farmers Insurance Group plan if allowed.

Can employees of Farmers Insurance Group take loans against their 401(k) savings?

Yes, the Farmers Insurance Group 401(k) plan may allow employees to take loans against their savings, subject to specific terms and conditions.

Are there penalties for withdrawing funds from the Farmers Insurance Group 401(k) plan before retirement age?

Yes, early withdrawals from the Farmers Insurance Group 401(k) plan may incur penalties and taxes unless certain exceptions apply.

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