Farmers Insurance Group Interest Rates Creep Upward Causing Lump-Sums to Decrease

Company Name For plan years beginning in Year Month First Segment Second Segment Third Segment Plan Type
Farmers Insurance Group All 2025 January 4.74% 5.55% 5.92%
Farmers Insurance Group All 2024 January 4.89% 5.14% 5.29%

Interest rates are heading in the wrong direction for Farmers Insurance Group employees who are considering the lump sum option on their pension payment. Interest rates hit a record low for individuals that commence their benefits in October of 2020 but have ticked up for those commencing their benefits in November. Over the last year, interest rates have dropped dramatically which has greatly increased many lump sum payments. However, if interest rates begin to climb many people's lump-sum payments could decrease. Should you desire to take your pension as a lump sum, Farmers Insurance Group will use interest rates and your age to calculate your lump sum payment. When interest rates move up or down, your pension lump sum amount will move in an inverse relationship. 


Your pension is calculated based on your last date of employment and benefit start date. The benefit calculation is a defined benefit based on your years of service and final average pay. These are used to determine your single life annuity. All other forms of pension payments are based on this figure.


Farmers Insurance Group Pension Lump Sum Calculation:

When Farmers Insurance Group employees elect the month they would like to begin their pension, Farmers Insurance Group looks back two months to calculate the rate used for the pension disbursement.

For example, if you are planning to retire and start your pension in November 2020, Farmers Insurance Group would use the rates available in September 2020 (two months prior to your month of retirement). This table shows each month and their rates as they stand today:

Farmers Insurance Group Segment Rates for December 2020:

Month/Year
1st Segment
2nd Segment
3rd Segment

September-20

0.51

2.31
3.15
August-20
0.52
2.22
3.03
July-20
0.59
2.25
3.01
June-20
0.74
2.57
3.32
May-20
1.08
2.78
3.47
April-20
1.58
2.88
3.24
March-20
2.22
3.08
3.73
September-19
2.13
3.07
3.65


For a December 2020 pension commencement date, you will use the October segmented rates. 

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For lump-sum conversions, the annuity is discounted to a present value using the first segment rate for the first five years of expected payments, the second segment rate for the next 15 years of expected payments and the third segment rate for all years of expected payments over 20.

'On average a 1% change in rates can equate to an 8% to 12% change in lump sums.


Because the annuity is discounted based on mortality as well as interest rates, the present value of each monthly payment reduces as the probability of living to receive each payment reduces. The older you are when you commence your pension benefit, the fewer the number of years that will be valued using the third segment rate (20+ years) and, conversely, the younger you are, the greater the number of years that will be valued using the third segment rate.

This methodology essentially means that there will be a unique monthly interest rate (lump-sum
conversion factor) for each year and month of birth.


How Do Rate Changes Affect Your Farmers Insurance Group Pension?


Because pension pricing is based on interest calculations, making a slight adjustment in your retirement date may have a significant financial impact on your pension due to changing rates each month.

Everything else held equal, a lower interest rate will produce a higher lump sum. The exact changes depend on your specific age, but on average a 1% change in rates can equate to an 8% to 12% change in lump sums. So, on average, a 1% change could increase or decrease your pension lump sum by roughly 10%.

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The changes from just June 2020 to September 2020 may account for a 1% - 3% increase in lump sums. However, if you look at where rates were in September 2019, they have come down quite a bit. For September 2019, the blended rates were 2.13 / 3.07 / 3.65. That is a drop of 0.76% in the 2nd segment which tends to have the strongest effect. A drop of 0.76% from September 2019 to September 2020 may have caused your pension to rise by 7% - 9%. For someone with a $500,000 lump sum, that could mean a move of as much as $45,000. For a $1,000,000 lump sum, it would be roughly $70,000 to $90,000. Going forward, if rates start to move back up, you could see your pension lump sum start to drop. The rates are updated monthly, so you have month to month options to commence your pension once you have retired. You do not have to commence your pension as soon as you retire. You have the option to defer it. That may be beneficial if rates are dropping and/or you are under 60 years old. If you take your pension prior to age 60 there are age penalties and you will not receive 100% of your pension benefit.


Given the current interest rate environment, it is highly suggested you discuss your options with
The Retirement Group and allow us to monitor the rates and keep you up to date on the monthly
changes. We can provide a complimentary cash flow analysis to show you how various retirement
dates may play out.

It is important to remember the pension annuity may be a better fit no matter how attractive the
pension lump sum may be. Every situation is unique, and a cash flow analysis will allow you to
compare all pension options.

What is the 401(k) plan offered by Farmers Insurance Group?

The 401(k) plan at Farmers Insurance Group is a retirement savings plan that allows employees to save a portion of their paycheck before taxes are taken out.

How does Farmers Insurance Group match employee contributions to the 401(k) plan?

Farmers Insurance Group offers a matching contribution to the 401(k) plan, which typically matches a percentage of the employee's contributions, up to a certain limit.

What are the eligibility requirements for the 401(k) plan at Farmers Insurance Group?

Employees of Farmers Insurance Group are generally eligible to participate in the 401(k) plan after completing a certain period of employment, usually within the first year.

Can employees of Farmers Insurance Group make changes to their 401(k) contributions?

Yes, employees of Farmers Insurance Group can change their contribution amounts at any time, subject to certain plan rules.

What investment options are available in the Farmers Insurance Group 401(k) plan?

The Farmers Insurance Group 401(k) plan offers a variety of investment options, including mutual funds, stocks, and bonds, allowing employees to tailor their investment strategy.

Is there a vesting schedule for the employer match in the Farmers Insurance Group 401(k) plan?

Yes, the Farmers Insurance Group 401(k) plan has a vesting schedule that determines how much of the employer match employees can keep if they leave the company.

How can employees at Farmers Insurance Group access their 401(k) account information?

Employees can access their 401(k) account information through the Farmers Insurance Group employee portal or by contacting the plan administrator.

What happens to the 401(k) savings if an employee leaves Farmers Insurance Group?

If an employee leaves Farmers Insurance Group, they can roll over their 401(k) savings into another retirement account, withdraw the funds, or leave the savings in the Farmers Insurance Group plan if allowed.

Can employees of Farmers Insurance Group take loans against their 401(k) savings?

Yes, the Farmers Insurance Group 401(k) plan may allow employees to take loans against their savings, subject to specific terms and conditions.

Are there penalties for withdrawing funds from the Farmers Insurance Group 401(k) plan before retirement age?

Yes, early withdrawals from the Farmers Insurance Group 401(k) plan may incur penalties and taxes unless certain exceptions apply.

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