HP Employees: Now Might Be a Good Time for a Roth Conversion

Changing traditional IRA assets to Roth IRAs during a bear market can provide significant tax savings and tax-free growth over time—and strategic planning with an advisor can help navigate that opportunity, says Michael Corgiat, of The Retirement Group, a division of Wealth Enhancement Group.

'HP employees can take advantage of current market conditions and convert traditional IRA assets to Roth IRAs and enjoy tax-free growth now and in the future,' says Brent Wolf, a representative of The Retirement Group, a division of Wealth Enhancement Group.

In this article we will discuss:

  • 1. The upside to converting traditional IRA assets to Roth IRAs during a bear market.

  • 2. How tax trade-offs and tax bracket management affect IRA conversions.

  • 3. Benefits of Roth IRA rules - no RMDs for original account holder.

The current bear market may offer an opportunity to convert traditional IRA assets to Roth IRAs. Converted assets are taxed as ordinary income in the year of conversion—a big tax bill in that year. But if your traditional IRA assets have appreciated in value, you will be taxed on a lower asset base when you convert. All conditions are met, and no additional income tax liability for you or your beneficiaries from the Roth account will result from the account growth.

According to a new report from Employee Benefit Research Institute (EBRI), most retirees spend less in retirement than they did working years. And only 7% of retirees said they spent more in retirement than before retirement. That means retirees might not need so much retirement income after all, and converting traditional IRA assets to Roth IRAs might be a smart way to reduce taxes and increase retirement savings:

Tax Trade-Off

One reason to delay taxes on HP retirement savings is that you may be in a lower tax bracket in retirement and a current tax deduction may be better than tax-free income in retirement. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act's lowered rates expire after 2025 but might have changed your calculation. A cost-benefit analysis might reveal whether it makes sense to pay taxes on some of your IRA assets now rather than later. One strategy is to 'fill your tax bracket,' or convert an asset's value to keep your tax classification. This requires an estimate of your 2022 income.

Lower Values, More Shares

If you have traditional or Roth IRAs at the same custodian, you can typically transfer funds between the accounts. So when share prices are low, you can convert more shares for each taxable dollar and have more shares in your Roth account for tax-free growth. The converted assets could also lose value. You could also directly deduct taxes on the converted assets—which is generally unwise.

Two Time Tests

There are two five-year retention periods for Roth accounts: one for withdrawals of earnings and the other for conversions. Tax-free and penalty-free withdrawals of earnings, including earnings on converted amounts, must be within five years of the first Roth account opening date and must be made after age 59½ unless an IRS exception applies. This need not be a problem if you already have a Roth IRA, but could be if you open your first Roth IRA for the conversion.

Since you paid taxes at the time of conversion, assets converted to a Roth IRA can be withdrawn at any time without conventional income tax. However, you may be penalized by 10% if you withdraw the assets before the end of a different five-year period beginning on January 1 of each conversion year unless you are at least 59½ years old or under another exception.

More Favorable RMD Rules

Roth IRAs are not subject to required minimum distribution (RMD) rules while the original owner is alive—unlike traditional IRAs. Those whose spouse's Roth IRA is considered their own are also sheltered from RMDs during their lifetimes. Other inheritors of a Roth IRA must complete RMD requirements. In any event, distributions from a Roth IRA would be tax-free. The longer your investments can grow, the better tax-free income may be for you and your beneficiaries.

No investment strategy can guarantee success for HP employees—all investing involves risk—including losing principal.

It's like planting seeds in a garden during a drought to convert traditional IRA assets to Roth IRAs in a bear market. As odd as it is to plant when supplies are tight, planting during a drought can produce a more plentiful harvest when the rains return. Likely, converting traditional IRA assets to Roth IRAs during a bear market will net you a lower tax bill and more tax-free growth in the long haul despite the initial tax hit. Like gardening, planning ahead and having patience will help.

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How does HP Inc. ensure that the pension plan benefits will remain stable and secure for employees in the future, and what measures are being implemented to mitigate financial volatility associated with these benefits? Employees of HP Inc. should be particularly aware of how the transition of their pension payments to Prudential will affect their financial security and what protections are in place to ensure that these payments are maintained without disruption.

HP Inc. ensures pension plan benefits remain stable and secure by transferring the payment obligations to Prudential, a highly-rated insurance company selected through a careful review by an Independent Fiduciary. This move is aimed at reducing financial volatility associated with HP's pension obligations while maintaining the same benefit amount for retirees. Prudential's established financial stability provides additional security to employees​(HP Inc_November 1 2021_…).

What specific details can HP Inc. employees expect to learn in the Welcome Kit from Prudential, and how will these details help them understand their new payment system? HP Inc. pension participants will need to familiarize themselves with the information outlined in the Welcome Kit to make informed decisions regarding their pension benefits going forward.

The Welcome Kit from Prudential will provide HP Inc. employees with instructions to set up an online account, along with details on managing payments, tax withholdings, and other resources. This information will allow employees to familiarize themselves with Prudential’s system and ensure a seamless transition without disruptions​(HP Inc_November 1 2021_…).

In what ways does the selection process for Prudential as the insurance provider reflect the commitment of HP Inc. to the well-being of its employees? Understanding the rationale behind this decision will give HP Inc. employees insights into the fiduciary responsibilities and governance processes that protect their retirement benefits.

The selection of Prudential reflects HP Inc.'s commitment to employee well-being, as it involved the Independent Fiduciary conducting an extensive review of insurance providers. Prudential was chosen based on its financial strength and ability to manage pension payments securely, showing HP's focus on protecting retirement benefits​(HP Inc_November 1 2021_…).

How will the annuity payments from Prudential differ from the previous pension payments in terms of tax implications and reporting for HP Inc. employees? It is crucial for employees of HP Inc. to comprehend the tax treatment of their new annuity payments to avoid any potential pitfalls in their personal financial planning.

The annuity payments from Prudential will be taxed similarly to the previous pension payments, though employees will receive two separate 1099-R forms for 2021 (one from Fidelity and one from Prudential). For future years, only a single form will be issued. This ensures employees are aware of how to manage tax reporting​(HP Inc_November 1 2021_…).

What resources are available to HP Inc. employees seeking assistance regarding their pension benefits, and how can they effectively utilize these resources to address their concerns? Knowing how to access support and guidance will empower HP Inc. employees to manage their retirement benefits proactively.

HP Inc. employees seeking assistance can access live customer support through Fidelity or contact Prudential directly after the transition. Additionally, the Welcome Kit will include important contact information for managing their benefits, making it easy for employees to address concerns​(HP Inc_November 1 2021_…).

How can HP Inc. employees verify the financial health and stability of Prudential, and why is this factor important in the context of their pension benefits? Employees must ask how Prudential's financial standing influences their view of long-term pension security and what metrics or ratings they should consider.

HP Inc. employees can verify Prudential’s financial health by reviewing Prudential's annual financial reports, which are publicly available. Prudential’s strong financial ratings were a key factor in its selection, assuring employees of long-term pension security​(HP Inc_November 1 2021_…).

What steps should HP Inc. employees take to update their personal information, such as banking details and tax withholding preferences, following the transition to Prudential? Understanding these processes will ensure a smooth continuation of benefits for HP Inc. employees as they adapt to the new system.

Employees do not need to re-submit their personal information to Prudential, as HP will securely transfer all necessary data, including banking and tax withholding preferences. This ensures the continuation of pension payments without the need for employee intervention​(HP Inc_November 1 2021_…).

How does HP Inc. plan to address potential changes in the financial landscape that may affect pension benefits, and what role does the insurance contract with Prudential play in this context? HP Inc. employees should be informed about the company's strategic outlook and how it aims to safeguard pension assets against economic uncertainties.

HP Inc. plans to address potential financial changes through its contract with Prudential, which guarantees pension payments will remain the same. Prudential manages these risks as part of its core business, providing added security against economic volatility​(HP Inc_November 1 2021_…).

In what circumstances might HP Inc. employees see changes in their net pension payments following the transition to Prudential, despite assurances that payment amounts will remain unchanged? This understanding will help employees manage their expectations regarding future payments and any adjustments they may need to make.

Employees might see changes in their net pension payments due to tax adjustments or changes in withholding instructions, but the gross payment amount will remain unchanged. Any garnishments or other deductions will continue as before, ensuring consistency in payment structure​(HP Inc_November 1 2021_…).

How can HP Inc. employees contact the company directly to learn more about the pension transition process, and what channels are available for them to have their questions addressed? Clear communication lines are essential for HP Inc. employees to ensure they receive timely and relevant information regarding their pension situations.

HP Inc. employees can contact the company through the Fidelity support line or directly through Prudential for any questions about the pension transition. The Welcome Kit and other resources will provide contact details, ensuring employees have access to timely support​(HP Inc_November 1 2021_…).

With the current political climate we are in it is important to keep up with current news and remain knowledgeable about your benefits.
HP offers a defined benefit pension plan calculated based on years of service and final average pay. The plan provides a stable monthly income upon retirement. It does not include a cash balance component.
Layoffs and Cost-Cutting: HP Inc. plans to cut up to 10% of its workforce over the next three years as part of a cost-cutting initiative aimed at saving $1.4 billion (Source: Bloomberg). Operational Efficiency: The restructuring is intended to streamline operations and focus on growth areas like digital printing and 3D printing. Financial Performance: HP reported a 3% increase in net revenue for Q1 2024, driven by strong demand for its printing and personal systems products (Source: HP).
HP Inc. grants stock options (SOs) and RSUs to its employees as part of its equity compensation packages. Stock options allow employees to purchase company stock at a set price after a specified vesting period, while RSUs vest over a few years based on performance or tenure. In 2022, HP focused on enhancing its equity programs with performance-based RSUs to align employee incentives with company goals. This continued in 2023 and 2024, with broader RSU availability and performance-linked stock options. Executives and middle management receive significant portions of their compensation in stock options and RSUs, fostering long-term alignment with company performance. [Source: HP Annual Report 2022, p. 56; HP Q4 2023 Report, p. 23; HP Q2 2024 Report, p. 12]
HP Inc. has been proactive in updating its employee healthcare benefits to address the current economic, investment, tax, and political environment. In 2022, HP introduced its "Future Ready Transformation Plan," which included enhancements to its healthcare offerings. The company provided comprehensive healthcare plans, including medical, dental, and vision coverage, alongside mental health support and wellness programs. These benefits are designed to support employees' overall well-being, ensuring they have access to necessary healthcare resources to maintain a healthy work-life balance. This initiative reflects HP's commitment to fostering a productive and satisfied workforce, which is crucial for sustaining business success in a competitive market. In 2023, HP continued to refine its healthcare benefits as part of its ongoing efforts to support employee health and productivity. The company introduced innovations such as telemedicine services and enhanced mental health programs, which provide employees with convenient access to healthcare professionals and wellness resources. This approach aligns with HP's broader strategy to create a supportive and flexible work environment, particularly as hybrid work models become more prevalent. By investing in robust healthcare benefits, HP aims to attract and retain top talent, ensuring long-term resilience and success amid economic uncertainties.

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